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  1. This is what I would describe as a 'loose' translation. Whatever, I hope it gives an accurate overall impression of this interview. George Dalaras, before giving a major concert at the London Palladium spoke exclusively with Spiros Sitheris of London Greek Radio SS Mr Dalaras, you are the artist who has, with your songs, taken Greek music to the whole world. Youve travelled worldwide and your reception has been unique. On the 13 May you will be performing at the London Palladium bringing us sounds from your new work Deserted Villages. This appearance is part of a tour? GD First of all let me thank you for your kind words of introduction. This is part of a tour that started some days ago in Budapest. It is one of countless tours that we have done in Europe, and especially in London where we have played many times. SS The Deserted Villages is a harmony of Greek/Albanian music and interpretations. An approach to the music of a neighbouring country, with both happy and sad songs. You've worked in the past with Goran Bregovic on Thessaloniki Ioannina with Two Canvas Shoes. Have you taken inspiration from Balkan music or are you trying to find common elements of music from this border area of Europe? GD I think that all of us who live in this area of the Balkans are influenced by music from our neighbouring countries. Dont forget that many Balkan songs, or the Greek equivalent, are known and form part of the entertainment and amusement for neighbouring peoples. Remember also that there are many Balkan songs amongst in our traditional songs, as there are very many Serbian, some Albanian, tsamika (which is a national dance in neighbouring countries), as well as a lot from Turkey. Not forgetting, of course Asia Minor and many Turkish songs with Turkish lyrics that have been written by prominent Greek composers in the past. Also I would say that the influences are not only from the Balkans but also from places such as Lebanon, Egypt, Israel, and looking even further afield, Tunisia, Sicily, Malta and Italy. As you will already know, because we are a people who travel constantly, we have strong ties of friendship with neighbouring countries where we have both settled and developed trading links. There have been significant influences, I would even say enormous influences on both sides. We have in other words both borrowed from and lent to our neighbours. I would say then that the answer is yes to both the questions you put earlier. SS You have sung almost all the Greek composers, old and new. You have collaborated with Al de Meola, Paco de Lucia, Jethro Tull, Joan Faulkner Emma Shaplin, Sting, Dulce Pontes. There seems to be no-one you havent worked with. What are your plans for the future in relation to the merging of Greek and foreign music? GD We are open to many types of music. So many artists from all over the world are interested in music from throughout the world because borders, or what are considered to be borders, simply dont exist in music. Music doesnt recognise barriers, it travels with its sounds and instruments, with its human voices and unites so many people, so many souls and so many cultures. So, we can work with any artist who is open to collaboration. SS Now let us turn to the Greek music scene. Youve worked with and given your support to very many artists. Do any of those stand out particularly? GD Certainly. There will always be those who can surprise us and give us courage and hope that what we love, that is Greek song, will not stop influencing other generations. We are said to be the lucky generation. We grew up in the 60s and 70s when the standards of song stood at a very high level. There will always be artists SS some names? GD Some names? Yes, very many. Amongst songwriters some in particular since the brothers Katsimixas opened the door to an extraordinary new direction. Through that passed dozens of young and significant young people. I would mention for example in recent years, Nikos Zoudiaris, Alkinoos Ioannidis, Pix Lax who have been very successful. And not only these. There is also Lavrentis Maxairitsas, Peridis, Sokratis Malamas. They have all done very good work. New voices will always emerge in modern popular song, as well as classical popular singers who have good voices and are working in the right direction. This will always happen in Greece. SS So you are optimistic about the future of Greek music? GD I would like to mention particularly a young man from Cyprus and Cyprus in recent years has produced very many good singers who is particularly outstanding, as he is a good musician, a good singer and a good composer. Mixalis Xatzigiannis who is progressing very quickly. He is very popular and is doing extremely well. Even though his style is pop, his sound has great potential for the future. SS Turning now to the last year. In 2006 you were appointed goodwill ambassador by the UN High Commission for Refugees. Tell us about this distinction and your work. GD This was a special moment, as it would be in the life of anyone I imagine. I, my family and Anna have for some time now tried to help in any way we can wherever there was a need. I think this outstanding honour came as a public acknowledgement of our past efforts and has loaded onto us as a family greater responsibilities. The titles dont mean a great deal but I understand that it has created press interest and given a gravity in the good sense, to what we were already doing. And because the refugee situation is so serious and because in recent years waves of people have been crossing borders in difficult and unpleasant circumstances with many dreadful consequences it is the duty of anyone who cares about refugees to look everywhere. There where they dont expect it, every moment at the moment we are speaking now someone is having to flee from torture, persecuted in their homeland, with no choice, forced into this situation. We must, as individuals but most significantly as states and authorities help these people until they can get back to their countries and their homelands. From my experience of visiting Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea I can tell you that those who suffer and live in poverty are very open-handed. Tens of thousands are helped by their own people and by their governments. Something that unfortunately doesnt happen in European countries. For all that the European countries have a high standard of living they are closing their borders, afraid that there will be a mass influx of refugees. I believe that we will have a long way to go in the way we receive and treat refugees and asylum seekers. SS Over the years you have travelled throughout almost the whole world. Was there anything that happened on these journeys that was particularly memorable? I have in mind an experience you had in Latin America when you were accused of spying. GD These trips were like adventures. Now, conditions for travelling have improved, but twenty or thirty years ago things werent so easy. We did tours then trying to make contact with a world that was unknown to us, and I think anyone would describe them as adventures. On each trip something memorable happened. The one you mentioned was around 1980 when Nicaragua was in the middle of the revolution. There were earthmounds by the side of the road and shooting everywhere. My wife and I were younger then. We had our cameras with us and took pictures of everything. They obviously thought we were suspicious so they arrested us and held us until they had checked our identification. This was one of the most difficult experiences we had. But they werent all bad. There were moments that were especially touching. We played in many places around the world and supported Greek centres of learning. We came in contact with people in Latin America, since you mention this, who hadnt had the time or opportunity to come to Greece, and who had been there for very many years, for decades, people dedicated to their work, teachers, priests who travelled, by bike, by taxi, by bus however they could, hundreds of miles to meet their fellow men. This was certainly something that was very touching. Just as for us. A few years ago we went to Evksnos Pontos (Black Sea) and met Greeks whose roots there go back centuries, who dont even speak Greek, they speak Pontiaka, while their official language as Turkish. Imagine, while they are Greek and orthodox. We have had, certainly, some deeply moving experiences. SS Should we expect a book of these experiences? GD Now that you mention it, maybe sometime we should record our experiences, so that we and our children can remember. SS Can we look a little at the rest of your recent work. A book/CD Breaking the Pomegranate by Lefteris Papadopoulos, and a CD of 25 songs by Manos Loizos. Ah, my swallow, including three previously unreleased songs with poetry by Nasim Hikmet, adapted into Greek by Yiannis Ritsos. GD Of course. Ill start with the Manos album. This year it is 25 years since his sudden and untimely death, and very many of his friends, as well as other people who didnt know him but love his music, will stage events, including concerts, in his memory. Many of his friends pointed out that in all these years Id never recorded a collection of his work - which I had done for others such as Kaldaras, Kouyioumtzis, Theodorakis - even though Id recorded 35, or maybe more, of his songs. So I decided, since this year we will commemorate 25 years since his death, to make this CD. Then I will go to Cyprus with some of my colleagues where we will perform a tribute with Cypriot artists and a Cypriot choir. The production will have theatrical elements, but will primarily be a concert. Many other artists such as Haris Alexiou, Maria Farantouri, Dimitra Galani and Vasilis Papakonstantinou will perform concerts throughout Greece in memory of Loizos and towards the end of the year, I think around October which is the anniversary of Loizos birthday, we will all give a major concern in the indoor Olympic Stadium which with the help of ERT will be widely broadcast. This, then, is the year of Loizos. Now you asked me about the Papadopoulos CD, 'Breaking the Pomegranate. This is quite recent and one of ten that will be released in the next two years or so as a tribute to Greeces songwriters. We are nearly ready to release the recordings for Manos Elvtheriou, Maxilis Ganas, Alkis Alkaios, Thodoris Gonis, Ilias Katsoulis and others. Over a period of two or two and a half years tens CDs will be released to honour these people, and to enable better lyrics to be heard than in the commercial songs of today. I dont know if you come into contact often with commercial Greek music. Unfortunately Greek song as we knew it in the past no longer exists. Today, lyrics are of very poor quality. SS GD the interpreter or producer. Which do you prefer? GD. To put these in order. Above all I am a musician. A musician who sings, is how I would describe myself. At the same time, for my whole life, since I was very young, I was involved in the recordings that I made. I would say then that I am a musician who sings and who produces music sounds and ideas. SS You have been involved in the production of work by other artists, such as folk songs with Panayiotis Lalezas. GD Certainly Ive been doing this for a long time, not just recently. I did one recording with Aretoula Ketime, two with Estoudiantina, and Im now, as you say, preparing one with Panagiotis Lalezas, and many others. Because I feel the enthusiasm and the spirit of those with talent, either as singers, as musicians or as composers. I stand beside them, to help them and at the same time to find beautiful songs for myself. I live and express myself through this work that I love. SS Will you be producing a CD of traditional music? GD I have already done so and you will have seen some traditional music from time to time in my work. One song may begin a programme and another end it. Sometimes songs from Now the birds, now the swallows the work that I did with Kronis Aidonidis of which I was also the producer, songs such as I told you and Im telling you again that we give a new sound, and traditional songs from other regions. I certainly want to do a recording of traditional songs, but I have so many other commitments we have continually postponed it. I hope that in the next two years Ill manage to find the time to do this. SS And to close with Sundays concert at the London Palladium. What will we hear then? GD As you know I am linked to many beautiful and important songs. I wouldnt be able to appear anywhere without singing those that you know, and there are very many of them. There are many composers and many types. These are songs that I dont want to be separated from, and I wouldnt like to leave out songs by Kouyioumtzis, by Loizos or by Kaldaras, everyone would insist on it. So, expect to hear all these songs, but we have also put the programme together so you can hear Deserted Villages, and new works such as the Mediterranean for example. So you will hear a panorama from the songs that I have sung. SS Thank you very much for speaking to us.
  2. Hristaki. Of course you have your reasons for withdrawing your suggestion, and equally I don't know what they are. But even though (because I'm not much of a 'joiner' ) I hadn't volunteered to participate in your suggestion, I'm sorry it was withdrawn. For two reasons. First because it was a very good one. You only have to read the interview with Dalaras before the London concert to see how desperate the situation is for so many refugees and how passionately he feels about it. Also I think that the, genuinely held, concerns expressed by Geeske, Annette and Irina should be looked at in more detail, particularly as there is now some discussion about the 'rules of conduct' for the forum. Geeske was worried about the precedent that would be set, and consequnces of, a financial transation in forum. I've thought very hard about this, but really can't see what the problem is. 'Precedents' are usually difificult in situations where an exception wouldn't make much difference but the consequential creation of a rule would. So, for example, if someone has six children and one wants to borrow a thousand pounds (which s/he could afford) it wouldn't be a problem saying 'yes' to that one child, but it would create difficulties because it would 'set a precedent' for all the others and create an obligation that was impossible to meet. However I don't see this problem in relation to collecting money through the forum. In each case members would read an appeal and decide for themselves how they responded. There would be no pressure - that I can see anyway - simply because previously others had responded positively (or come to that negatively). Equally I dont' see what the (presumably negative) consequences would be. The immediate consequences of this collection would be that money would be collected from forum members and donated for the benefit of refugees, who sorely need it. I'm not sure what other consequences would follow. However, since I respect the views of my fellow forum members, I suspect there's something here that I've missed. So it would be really helpful to have some more details about their concerns.
  3. I agree with Apostoli that it would be helpful to have a consensus on some basic standards of behaviour, and make clear what the consequences might be if these are not met. I think though, in keeping with the spirit of the forum, that it would be best not to use language that gives the impression of instructing members on how they should behave. As many have acknowledged it isnt the existence of these standards that will affect behaviour. A few probably wont be influenced by them, whereas the vast majority dont need them. But it does set a clear framework within which any action relating to unacceptable behaviour can be set. This must be to everyones advantage. Its also helpful to remember that the forum already has behavioural guidance and sanction. We all agreed to this when we registered: Every message expresses the opinions of the poster and not of the community as a whole. All opinions are welcome as long as they don't offend anyone and they don't contain insults or direct attacks to other members. There is no single person who decides about the decency of each message. Those are judged under the rules of common sense. By agreeing to this, you are expected to respect all fellow members. Although nothing is said about what sanctions would be applied if someone failed to meet those standards, there have been a number of occasions when this has happened, either through the deletion of messages, and in at least one case banning. Standards of behaviour Under Apostolis suggestions the behavioural expectations would be: Members will not engage in disagreements, insult or attack other members either in the forum or through personal messages No post should be insulting, contain falsehoods, be threatening offensive or racist. My thoughts about this are: 1. There is a difficulty with including personal disagreements as this makes no allowance for the possibility that someone may be unfairly provoked into a personal disagreement. 2. The addition of racism may be unnecessary since it should be covered by the wider category of insults or offence. This also avoids the possibility of requests being made for the addition of other categories such as sexism or ageism. 3. I suggest omitting deliberate falsehoods simply on the grounds that it would be almost impossible to prove. 4.Our current wording is probably almost enough. Sanctions As I said, these are already being imposed where the administrator/moderators* think it necessary. I think its very helpful to be explicit about the fact that sanctions might be applied and what they might be, both for clarity and to prevent the administrator/moderators* being accused of taking arbitrary or unfair action. However it may be better to be a little less specific (as in x will lead to y). This should give more flexibility in how they are applied. Multiple registrations I really dont know what to think about this. I have difficulty (which has also been expressed by others) in understanding why anyone would want to register more than once. But if its not causing any harm I suppose its not a problem. So maybe its best to link that issue to the one of someone trying to get round a ban by becoming someone else. So putting this all together my suggestion is something on the lines of: This forum is for the exchange of information and communication between members and is a place where all members are expected to respect their fellow members Every message expresses the opinions of the poster and not of the community as a whole. All opinions are welcome as long as they don't offend anyone and they don't contain insults or direct attacks on other members either in posts or in personal messages. There is no single person who decides whether each message confirms with these requirements. However, if the administrator/moderators* reach a view that a member has insulted, offender or attacked another member, then action may be taken. This will include The member being asked to voluntarily delete the post and agree not to repeat the offensive behaviour The post or part of the post being deleted The users account being temporarily suspended The user being permanently deleted from the register of members and denied further access to the forum. In all cases members will be told in advance what action is going to be taken and why In extreme cases information about the actions of the user will be sent to the internet service provider through which the user is connected. Two other points One issue that I think is worth thinking about is what members should do if feel theyve been insulted or offended. Should they, for example, be advised to raise it privately with the person they feel has offended them? Or just report it to the administrator/moderators* and leave the decision on what to do to them? On the other hand if someone has been publicly offended, should they have the right to point that out/defend themselves in public too? But would that then put them in the ranks of the offenders? Although my instinctive reaction to this is to think this is all too complicated for a small forum events of the past few weeks suggest that maybe it isnt. Not least because this also extends to the way in which the administrator/moderators* will make a decision about sanctions. Ive also been wondering if there are any aspects of the forums architecture that (obviously unintentionally) has an influence on the relationships between members. Since the site is being redesigned it might be a good time to think about this as I presume that many of the forum topics will be absorbed into the new site (such as upcoming concerts, videos and photographs/still images). Although I doubt if there is any direct cause and effect between topics and disputes, I wonder if some topics give an unintended impression that the forum is a small, closed group that might hinder rather than help the development of a culture of openness and inclusiveness. One example is the dedications topic. Although I know this was started with the best of friendly intentions, in practice it has become somewhere in which a relatively small number of members, who know each other personally, exchange dedications on a regular basis. So is it unconsciously creating a feeling of exclusivity? The counter-argument, I know, is anyone is free to post a dedication but in fact they dont and I think its better to deal with the is rather than the might or ought. I should make it clear that I think one of the joys of the forum is the way that it has been the catalyst for the creation of strong and lasting friendships. It just worries me when this loops back so that the forum becomes the forum of friends, rather than a forum in which friends are created. Anyway, its just a thought. * Thought it might be worth mentioning that, according to the members' list (on 9 June anyway), that the moderators are Apostolis, Christos Regnis and 'dokimos'.
  4. Just to let you know that I've posted a translation of some of the discussion in the topic 'Κανόνες και Όροι Χρήσης του Forum , Forum regulations and terms of use' in the 'Suggestions, comments, questions' section. http://www.dalaras.com/forum/index.php?s=6...=4&t=3734&st=40
  5. This is a translation of Apostoli's first post in this topic, followed by a brief summary of some of the points that have been made by members in the discussion that followed: 'This is a first draft of rules/terms of use for the forum. Give me your views on changes, amendments, deletions or additions. If anyone doesnt agree with rules, please let me know, and why Terms of use 1. Personal disagreements, insults and attacks are not permitted, either in the forum or through personal messages. 2. Posts which could be considered insulting, intentionally false, threatening, offensive, or racist can lead either to the temporary suspension of the users account or to permanent disconnection. In extreme cases information about the actions of the user will be sent to the internet service provider through which the user is connected. 3. The administrators/moderators reserve the right in every case to alter, or to delete completely, insulting or improper posts or to lock the topic until further notice. 4. All Internet Protocol addresses are recorded and the creation of multiple accounts by the same user is not permitted. The creation of more than one account for different personal users from the same IP is admissible only after agreement from the administration. Anyone who infringes this rule will be removed from the list of members and will not be permitted entry to the forum. 5. If a user whose account has been temporarily suspended is discovered creating or using another account in order to continue writing in the forum both their new and old accounts will be deleted. Some general advice for posting messages 1. Where an article is copied or extracts of an article from another website or from some other printed material or source is posted, the source of the article must be referred to at the end of the post in order to avoid breach of copyright. 2. Check your post before sending it (not just afterwards) for errors that affect its meaning. Use the Edit option to correct your posts. It is boring and tiring to do additional posts, simply to change some details. 3. Use the search facility on the forum before asking a question. Its possible that what you are looking for is already in an existing topic. 4. Dont demand, but ask politely for what you want as clearly as possible. 5. Remember that the other members of the forum arent obliged to answer and that sometimes there are no answers. 6. Its aesthetically displeasing to write only in capital letters. Try not to write either the title of your message or its contents in capitals. Writing in this way on the internet means that you are shouting and its unnecessary and continued use creates the danger of misunderstanding. 7. A post can be posted in whatever language is easiest for a user. But preferably they will be in Greek or English, which are understood by the majority of users. It is best to avoid writing Greek in the Latin alphabet (greeklish). 8. When replying to a message it is not necessary to quote the whole of the previous message, only the part to which you are referring. Note Every infringement of the terms of use is evidence of disregard for the other members. Summary of discussion: Rules of behaviour On the whole those who have responded agree (with varying degrees of enthusiasm) that there is a need for some rules or principles that will set out standards of behaviour expected of members. The following observations have been made: 1. The underlying philosophy of the forum is predominantly democratic and self-policing and this should be retained as far as possible. 2. That in a forum of this small size there should be no need for a large number of strict rules of behaviour 3. This should also be reflected in the language of the rules, which should avoid over-prescription and rigidity. 4. The need to find a solution to recent difficulties difficulties in the forum has been recognised as a factor supporting the introduction of these rules/code of conduct. 5. Rules are unnecessary, since they run counter to the democratic spirit and philosophy of the forum and will not stop members who are determined to do so from behaving badly. It would be preferable if members were simply asked to treat each other in the forum as they would face to face in the company of forum members in an open, public place. 6. If there is an expectation that the administrator/moderators will take action against a member who behaves in an unacceptable manner, a set of rules provides a consistent and objective framework against which this can be done. It also protects the administrator/moderators from the accusation of taking arbitrary or unfair action. General advice for posting messages There is general agreement on the acceptability and usefulness of this. It has been emphasised that the language used should avoid any suggestion of prescription. This is still very much a first draft so everyone is encouraged to make comments suggestions, additions or deletions.'
  6. Geeske, that's exactly where it is . (The link is also in the first line of my post.) But I thought it worth re-posting here in case anyone missed it.
  7. This is a rough translation/summary of the discussion in Διάρθρωση φωτογραφικού υλικού so far. Apologies for any mistakes, which hopefully can be corrected. Nikolas is saying that as part of the upgrading of the site the ability will be given to post photographs in a single place, rather than, as now, members having to post them in different places in the forum. Suggestions are being invited for developing the structure for this, in other words on what categories and sub-categories could be created. The objective will be to create basic categories, for example concerts, posters, personal, with other artists, from the press, members' collections and so on. There would be different albums/sub-categories within these. For example, there could be one for each individual concert within the general concert category. It would be similar to the existing photographs part of the site, but with improved categorisation and facilities and without access being limited, as it is now, to the site administrator. Only suggestions for posting photographs are being sought at this stage. Upgrading other parts of the site is either proceeding satisfactorily, or will be subject to similar consultation with the forum later on. The following suggestions have been made Maro Posters From the press TV journals/magazines Newspapers (with further sub-categories if necessary) Music magazines/journals Others Covers/front pages CDs (this could include CD and LP covers/booklets With other artists Greek musicians/singers Non-Greek musicians/singers With other artists (not musicians/singers) Specific artists (such as Theodorakis, Alexiou, Loizos With other personalities Personal Portraits Others Concerts Individual concerts in chronological order Concert programmes UNHCR Apostolis Posters Tickets Album covers/booklets Magazine/journal covers Press cuttings Photographs/portraits Concerts (with a separate album for each concert) Personal Miscellaneous (photographs not falling into any other category) With other artists Mikis Theodorakis Stavros Kouyioumtzis Xaroula Alexiou Photographs of members Member 1 Member 2 and so on Sub-categories could be added (or removed) as we go along. Since a photograph could fall into more than one category, there should be the ability to specify what those categories would be. When uploading photographs it should also be possible to add a title and information, such as when it was taken, who took it, source..... There could be keywords that will facilitate searches. Date and time, and the name of the 'donor' could be automatically added with an upload. Each photograph could have a serial number A user could choose to be contacted when an album in which they are interested is updated. Possibility for a user to add a comment to the photographs Ntalarofili has also suggested creating keywords and that it should be possible to search by date, member and so on. She has also asked whether the photographs in the forum that can no longer be opened have been permanently lost, or whether this is just the result of a technical problem that can be solved. Nikolas has thanked members for the suggestions hopes therell be more. He has observed that it will be important the ensure that the categories/sub-categories are not so small that they only have a few photographs in them. In any case we will learn from experience. Changes can always be made. At this stage he wants to concentrate on agreeing the 'category structure'. Other technical issues such as 'keywords' are already being dealt with as part of the overall upgrading.
  8. This is a rough translation/summary of the discussion so far. Apologies for any mistakes, which hopefully can be corrected. Nikolas is saying that as part of the upgrading of the site the ability will be given to post photographs in a single place, rather than, as now, members having to post them in different places in the forum. Suggestions are being invited for developing the structure for this, in other words on what categories and sub-categories could be created. The objective will be to create basic categories, for example concerts, posters, personal, with other artists, from the press, members' collections and so on. There would be different albums/sub-categories within these. For example, there could be one for each individual concert within the general concert category. It would be similar to the existing photographs part of the site, but with improved categorisation and facilities and without access being limited, as it is now, to the site administrator. Only suggestions for posting photographs are being sought at this stage. Upgrading other parts of the site is either proceeding satisfactorily, or will be subject to similar consultation with the forum later on. The following suggestions have been made Maro Posters From the press TV journals/magazines Newspapers (with further sub-categories if necessary) Music magazines/journals Others Covers/front pages CDs (this could include CD and LP covers/booklets With other artists Greek musicians/singers Non-Greek musicians/singers With other artists (not musicians/singers) Specific artists (such as Theodorakis, Alexiou, Loizos With other personalities Personal Portraits Others Concerts Individual concerts in chronological order Concert programmes UNHCR Apostolis Posters Tickets Album covers/booklets Magazine/journal covers Press cuttings Photographs/portraits Concerts (with a separate album for each concert) Personal Miscellaneous (photographs not falling into any other category) With other artists Mikis Theodorakis Stavros Kouyioumtzis Xaroula Alexiou Photographs of members Member 1 Member 2 and so on Sub-categories could be added (or removed) as we go along. Since a photograph could fall into more than one category, there should be the ability to specify what those categories would be. When uploading photographs it should also be possible to add a title and information, such as when it was taken, who took it, source..... There could be keywords that will facilitate searches. Date and time, and the name of the 'donor' could be automatically added with an upload. Each photograph could have a serial number A user could choose to be contacted when an album in which they are interested is updated. Possibility for a user to add a comment to the photographs Ntalarofili has also suggested creating keywords and that it should be possible to search by date, member and so on. She has also asked whether the photographs in the forum that can no longer be opened have been permanently lost, or whether this is just the result of a technical problem that can be solved. Nikolas has thanked members for the suggestions hopes therell be more. He has observed that it will be important the ensure that the categories/sub-categories are not so small that they only have a few photographs in them. In any case we will learn from experience. Changes can always be made. At this stage he wants to concentrate on agreeing the 'category structure'. Other technical issues such as 'keywords' are already being dealt with as part of the overall upgrading.
  9. Οδυσσέας Ιωάννου on Melodia is tops for me. To be honest Id be happy listening to him read the telephone directory for two hours. Fortunately though he also plays great music. When Melodia lapses into latin or anything non-Greek I usually switch to Derti because Im too lazy to look for anything else.
  10. Hristaki. One that occurs to me is 'Ουρανέ που περνάς' - in English 'Take me home, country roads' lyrics by John Denver and music (as far as I can make out) by Danoff and Nivert. Greek lyrics are by Σέβη Τηλιακού and recorded by Πασχάλης/the Olympians. I should also say that there's a great reggae version of this song on the most-loved CD in our house (three out of four of us have bought it independently and all have been played almost to the point of destruction). It's 'The very best of Toots and the Maytals'. If there are any reggae fans (or just those that are curious about reggae) out there and you only buy one CD make it this one. Ουρανέ που περνάς Take me home, country roads The Very Best of Toots and the Maytals
  11. Gianni - thanks so much for this information. It's great news - well sort of - since it's also a painful reminder that I'd much rather be in Athens than London in the next few months.
  12. Dora Thank you so much for putting this list together (and of course to Thanasi, you and others for the original postings) It's an impressive piece of work that I missed somehow when it first appeared and only found today whilst doing a search.
  13. And in London on 8 October Theatre Royal Drury Lane Catherine Street WC2 Time of concert 8 .00pm Tickets from: Theatre's Box Office: 020 7494 5513 Trehantiri 020 8802 6530 Greek City 020 8889 0186
  14. The latest news from Trehantiri is that it might be the 12 September...or it might be 1 October..and it might be at the Albert Hall or it might not...... Also today I finally bought 'Βύσσινο και νεράντζι'. Ι΄d put this off, for some reason, but in the last two weeks kept hearing - and loving - 'Με ξέχασε η αγάπη μου' on the radio. Apologies that I haven't been able to follow the discussion here. Personally, I love this CD.
  15. And just as a reminder about the wealth of information that's on this amazing website, you can also find them here (Click on the treble clef button, second from the left): Live at the Attikon .
  16. Hooray! That's really great news. And many thanks for the posting Marie - I confess that I've long since stopped checking the Trehantiri website, since there never seemed to be anything new on it. So without your help I would definitely have missed this. And to celebrate (after watching the tennis) I'm listening to Τα λαϊκά της Χαρούλας' which is a really great collection of Alexiou's songs. I strongly recommend it. PS And I know it's hard to pick one out of so many great tracks, but 'Γκαρσόνα' has to be one of the greatest 'feelgood' songs of all time.
  17. Two more pictures to add to Agnie's. Της δικαιοσύνης ήλιε νοητέ 1 Της δικαιοσύνης ήλιε νοητέ 2
  18. And before that, it seems, from 18 to 22 July in Spain http://www.syntorama.com/eng/tours/haris_alexiou/
  19. Hi guys Thank you so much for the information. This concert is something that I absolutely can't miss. So I'll be there. I don't know how likely it is that it won't happen (like the Βαρδής concert ) but I'm happy to take the chance. A weekend in Athens is always good, even without the music. Kate
  20. Hooray!! That's great news. Amazingly (and rather embarassingly) I've only just 'discovered' Κανά. I heard her 'Να βάλω τα μεταξωτά' by chance on Melodia when I was last in Athens. Loved it and went straight away to buy 'Της μέρας και της νύχτας'. Loved that too - although 'Να βάλω...' is still my absolute favourite. And I've been listening to it almost non-stop since. I suppose that's what's so good and so bad about coming to Greek music late and discovering it in such a rush. The bad news is that there's so much great music, and so many superb singers out there that you still don't know about. The good news is that, with luck and hard work, you'll find them. And it feels great when you do!
  21. This is for all those who loved and still miss the 'special features' of the old website, and for those who never knew it. A reminder of just how extraordinary this site was and still is Alas not all the links work (including the guestbook) but there's lots to enjoy. And don't be put off it you see the 'path index error' message first. Dalaras Unofficial Website 15 May 2001 And this is the full list Way Back Machine Dalaras.com
  22. Thank you so much Nikolas, and you'll know from the postings that there are many of us willing to help in any way we can. In the meantime to remind us again just how amazing this site (and its creator) are I've posted a 'memory' in 'links' The Dalaras Unofficial Website 15 May 2001
  23. These are the Papadopoulos songs that I could find from the discography. If anyone wants a more elaborate version with links let me know and I'll send it by e mail. Αντίο φίλε (Χρήστος Νικολόπουλος) Αχ και να 'μουνα το παλικάρι (Απόστολος Καλδάρας) Αχ ο μπαγλαμάς (Απόστολος Καλδάρας) Αχ χελιδόνι μου (Μάνος Λοίζος) Βρέχει φωτιά στη στράτα μου (Μίμης Πλέσσας) Για πάρε μάνα (Απόστολος Καλδάρας) Για πιάσε γύφτο σφυρί κι αμόνι (Απόστολος Καλδάρας) Δε φταίω (Γιάννης Σπανός) Δέκα παλικάρια (Μάνος Λοίζος) Δεν ξέρω ο Θεός που κάνει πιάτσα (Χρήστος Νικολόπουλος) Είμαστε το φτωχολόι (Απόστολος Καλδάρας) Είχα ένα όνομα (Χρήστος Νικολόπουλος) Εκεί που σμίγει η δύση κι η ανατολή (Απόστολος Καλδάρας) Ελισσώ (Μάνος Λοίζος) Εσύ το τσιφτετέλι σου (Χρήστος Νικολόπουλος) Έχω ένα καφενέ (Μάνος Λοίζος) Η δουλειά κάνει τους άντρες (Μάνος Λοίζος) Η μαντόνα η Σαλονικιά (Μίνωας Μάτσας) Ήθελα να σ' αντάμωνα (Χρήστος Νικολόπουλος) Ήλιε μου σε παρακαλώ (Μάνος Λοίζος) Ήσουνα φεγγάρι (Γιώργος Σταυριανός) Ήταν οχτώ εννιά (Μάνος Λοίζος Θα πιω απόψε το φεγγάρι (Μίμης Πλέσσας) Θυμήσου (Αντώνης Βαρδής) Καληνύχτα (Χρήστος Νικολόπουλος) Κάποιος χτύπησε την πόρτα (Σταύρος Κουγιουμτζής) Κάπου χαράζει (Απόστολος Καλδάρας) Κλάψτε ουρανοί κι αστέρια (Σταύρος Ξαρχάκος) Μαγνητοφώνησα απόψε το φεγγάρι (Χρήστος Νικολόπουλος) Μάνα δε φυτέψαμε (Μάνος Λοίζος) Μάνα μου αλλιώς μου τα 'πες (Στέλιος Βαμβακάρης) Με βρήκε ο χάρος (Απόστολος Καλδάρας) Μη γυρίζεις πια (Χρήστος Νικολόπουλος) Μη μιλάς μη γελάς κινδυνεύει η Ελλάς (Χρήστος Νικολόπουλος) Μην ακούς (Μιχάλης Τερζής) Να 'μαι από καμιά μεριά (Στέλιος Βαμβακάρης) Ξεκινάει τ' αρχοντολόι (Στέλιος Βαμβακάρης) Ξένος για σένανε κι εχθρός (Χρήστος Νικολόπουλος) Ο λιόντας (Μάνος Λοίζος) Παναγιά (Απόστολος Καλδάρας) Πάνε να πεις (Μάνος Λοίζος) Πιάσε το ζουρνά (Μάνος Λοίζος) Σαββατόβραδο στην Καισαριανή (Σταύρος Ξαρχάκος) Σαν το μετανάστη (Zulfi Livaneli) Σεβάχ ο Θαλασσινός (Μάνος Λοίζος) Στα ψηλά τα παραθύρια (Σταύρος Κουγιουμτζής) Στην αλάνα (Γιάννης Σπανός) Στην Ανατολή στη Δύση (Μιχάλης Τερζής) Τα βουρκωμένα μάτια μου (Ελένη Καραίνδρου) Τα βυζαντινά σου μάτια (Στέλιος Βαμβακάρης) Τα μαλλάκια σου κυρά μου (Στέλιος Βαμβακάρης) Το ΄πες (Χρήστος Νικολόπουλος) Το τραγούδι της Υακίνθης (Δημήτρης Λάγιος) Φωτιά χιονίζει ο ουρανός (Χρήστος Νικολόπουλος) Χελιδονάκι (Αντώνης Βαρδής)
  24. Well, guys, this is the best list of the Dalaras songs that I can come up with in more or less the order he sang them. I'm sure Anna, Hristaki and Alexandros can fill in the gaps and correct the mistakes. ’σπρο περιστέρι Τι 'ναι αυτό που μας ενώνει Luna Rosa Ένας κόμπος η χαρά μου Το προαίσθημα Ο παλιός στρατιώτης Πεπρωμένο Τα βεγγαλικά σου μάτια Amor amor Μια βραδιά στο Λεβερκούζεν Κι αν σε θέλω Καλή τύχη Μ' ένα παράπονο Πού 'ναι τα χρόνια Στην αλάνα Όλα καλά Στα χρόνια της υπομονής Κάπου νυχτώνει Εγώ ποτέ δεν αγαπώ Ξένος για σένανε κι εχθρός Τώρα κλαις Πριν το τέλος Τι να θυμηθώ τι να ξεχάσω Μη μου θυμώνεις It was a truly great evening. A warm, enthusiastic audience, great songs, excellent interpretations. Κάπου νυχτώνει was unbelievably beautiful and Dalaras' voice was amazingly good, considering that he was suffering from a heavy cold.
  25. Well, since I must have been the last forum member, by a long way, to buy Mesogeios, I suppose I had to do better this time. So I got my copy of Estoudiantina II at about 10.00 this morning. And I have to say that the top track for me (so far) is Xaravgi (Daybreak), which won't surprise anyone who's heard me going on about about Yiannis Xaroulis in the last year or so.