Posted November 29, 2001 · Report post Anyone who can spare the time, tell me please if I'm right or wrong in my translation. ΤΡΕΛΟΙ ΚΑΙ ΑΓΓΕΛΟΙ Μουσική: Σταύρος Κουγιουμτζής Στίχοι: Σταύρος Κουγιουμτζής Τι κάθεσαι εδώ πέρα και σαπίζεις εδώ δεν έχει τόπο να σταθείς ανήμπορος στον ήλιο ανεμίζεις συντρίμμια και κουρέλια μιας ψυχής Τι κάθεσαι εδώ πέρα και πεθαίνεις και ψάχνεις για καινούργιες προσευχές το χάλασμα το βλέπεις και σωπαίνεις φθινόπωρο κι αρχίζουν οι βροχές Τι κάθεσαι εδώ πέρα και σαπίζεις εδώ δεν αγαπάνε τους τρελούς τις νύχτες ματωμένος φτερουγίζεις μ' ανύπαρκτα φτερά για τους πολλούς Αυτά είπε σ' ένα ποιητή δικό μας και τράβηξε για το φεγγάρι ο Ντύλαν Τόμας FOOLS AND ANGELS What are you sitting here and rot (away) here is no place to stop ailing you wave to the sun debris and rags of the soul. What are you sitting here and die and you look for new prayers you see the spoiling and keep silent Autumn and the rains start What are you sitting there and rot (away) here they don't love the fools at nights, you flutter bleeding with non-existing wings a lot (I don't understand this) All this, Dylan Thomas said to a poet of ours and headed for the moon. Thanks for helping me out here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 2, 2001 · Report post With many many thanks to Niki, this is what she sent me. I'm learning, I'm learning. Hurray ! FOOLS AND ANGELS What are you sitting here and rotTING (away) here THERE is no place to stop ailing you wave to the sun debris and rags of the soul. What are you sitting here and dYING and lookING for new prayers you see the spoiling and YOU keep silent Autumn and the rains start What are you sitting there and rotTING (away) here they don't love the fools at nights, you flutter bleeding with non-existing wings TO MOST OF PEOPLE All this, Dylan Thomas said to a poet of ours and headed for the moon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 7, 2004 · Report post Wonderful this song which I recently listened to for the first time (and the way Dalaras sings it unique !) The last verse makes yet some troubles to me. This is Koujoumtsis song, but what said Dylan Thomas * and who was the greek poetry ? On the occasion of the 50th anniversary of Dylan's death there has been put a site into the web **. I tried a translation of Koujoumtsis song into German. Herbert NARREN UND ENGEL Was sitzt du hier herum und lässt dich gehen ? Hier ist kein Platz zum Verweilen. Bekümmert lässt du die Trümmer und Fetzen einer Seele in der Sonne flattern. Warum sitzt du hier herum und stirbst ? Suchst nach neuen Gebeten ? Du siehst die Zerstörung und schweigst. Es ist Herbst und die Regenzeit beginnt. Was sitzt du hier herum und verfällst? Hier lieben sie keine Narren in blutbefleckten Nächten. Du flatterst mit nicht vorhandenen Flügeln zu den vielen ( die um dich herum sind). Dies sagte zu einem unserer Dichter und ging zum Mond...Dylan Thomas *. _____________ * Walisischer Dichter /Poet from Wales (1914-1953) **www.dylanthomasfestival.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 8, 2004 · Report post Could not the contact to the given website address be of help, Herbert? Otherwise we'd have to ask Kyrio Stavro Kujumtzi (but be careful, the whole list of questions to him from me is waiting - like everybody can see for example from the today topic concerning one of his less known works:)). Ansonsten, ich mag Deine Version. Dazu melde ich mich noch, Herbert. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 8, 2004 · Report post Herbert and Olga, I am the happy owner of the LP "Treloi kai aggeloi" and so I can help you up to a certain degree. The LP (not the CD ! ) is accompanied by a sheet with the lyrics of the songs and it contains the following remark by Kougioumtzis, concerning the song "Treloi kai aggeloi (Dylan Thomas)": "Εμπνευσμένο από το ποίημα «Παρουσία» του Μίλτου Σαχτούρη. Στους στίχους μου «αυτά είπε σ ένα ποιητή δικό μας και τράβηξε για το φεγγάρι ο Ντύλαν Τόμας», εννοώ τον ποιητή Μίλτο Σαχτούρη. Σ.Κ." "Inspired by the poem 'Parousia' ['Presence'] by Míltos Sahtoúris. With my verses <αυτά είπε σ ένα ποιητή δικό μας και τράβηξε για το φεγγάρι ο Ντύλαν Τόμας> ['All this, Dylan Thomas said to a poet of ours and headed for the moon.'] I mean the poet Míltos Sahtoúris. S.K." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites