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Interview With Shimon Parnas & Dalaras

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Thank you very much, Alona! :):D

Is there any case to save this programme?

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Yes, my friends recorded it... the minute I receive it you will get a better copy :)

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Ωραία συνέντευξη με εξαιρετικό κλείσιμο! Ευχαριστούμε πολύ (αν καταλαβαίναμε και τα εβραϊκά, θα ήταν καλύτερα) :):D:DB):music::)

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Parnas:

It was love at first sight. Something in his gracious and warble voice had cracked a split in the wall of my love to Rock music and touched

the deepest parts, where my roots lay hidden. I heard in his voice the forgotten times at my parents home. I heard the sweet-sorrow in the

Ladino romanza and I heard the warble of the ladino Cantor at the synagogue in Jerusalem in my childhood neighbourhood.

So I followed him, curious and innocent, through the winding paths of the Greek music and I was overwhelmed.

The programme today is dedicated to the award-winning Giorgos Dalaras.

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So I followed him like (following) a beloved teacher, like (following) exemplary master and following him I set on an inquisitive journey into the

treasures and mazes of the Greek music, a journey that has lasted until today.

So I went to meet Giorgos Dalaras in the city where he was born, Piraeus, at the beautiful amphitheatre, overlooking the sea, and I caught him

a few minutes before he was going on stage. It has been a long time since we met...

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Thank you, Alona!

Ευχαριστώ, ’γγελε!

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In the meantime they have replaced the link and added subtitles so I translated the entire interview for the English speaking people:

http://www.23tv.co.il/1672-he/chalom.aspx

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Parnas: It was love at first sight. Something in his gracious and warble voice had cracked a split in the wall of my love to Rock music and touched

the deepest parts, where my roots lay hidden. I heard in his voice the forgotten echoes at my parents home. I heard the sweet-sorrow in the

Ladino Romansas and I heard the warble of the ladino Cantor at the synagogue in Jerusalem in my childhoods neighborhood.

So I followed him, curious and innocent, through the winding paths of the Greek music and I was overwhelmed.

The transmission today is dedicated to the award-winning Giorgos Dalaras.

So I followed him like (following) a beloved teacher, like (following) exemplary master and following him I set on an inquisitive journey into the

treasures and mazes of the Greek music, a journey that has lasted until today.

So I went to meet Giorgos Dalaras in the city where he was born, Piraeus, at the beautiful amphitheatre, overlooking the sea, and I caught him

a few minutes before he was going on stage. It has been a long time since we met...

Parnas: For more than 45 years you are on stage. When did you realize for the first time that you are going to be a singer.

Dalaras: I think that I was never in my life separated from music, not as idea, not as pleasure and not as self-expression. The song was as a

pleasant pillow on which to lay my soul.

Parnas: Wise man once said that success is 90% luck and 10% skill. What do you think about it?

Dalaras: Its the other way around

Parnas: you don't believe in luck?

Dalaras: No, I have never in my life bought a lotto or lottery ticket. Luck is maybe the fact that I am still alive because I fell off my motorcycle tens

of times. I fell on the road while speeding 180 kms an hour and I am still alive!

Parnas: Greece has experienced a lot of sufferings, wars and crisis. We arrived in Athens during difficult days. Difficult days, that are reflected in

each street and corner and on people's faces. But Greece knew even tougher times, days of dictatorship and rule of Junta with fascistic

characteristics, one of the harshest and cruelest regimes in Europe after 2WW. The day in which democracy collapsed in Greece was a

meaningful day in modern Greek history, and even more so, in the career of Dalaras the boy, then, only 17 years of age.

Parnas: April 21, 1967, do you remember this day?

Dalaras: Yes, I remember it very well. I woke up in that morning at 08:00 o'clock in order to go to the studio to record my first songs and since we

lived near Athens' Police station, there was one tank on one side of the street and two on the other side. I couldn't leave. The road was blocked

on a stretch of 150 meters. At Zaimi Street there were two tanks and on the other street another tank and I was in between them and remained like that

Parnas: I read in your biography that it was for the first time that you entered the studio in order to record your first single. Is it true?

Dalaras: Yes. It was indeed like that.

Parnas: The day that democracy fell in Greece.

Dalaras: Yes, it is true. A close friend of my father's, a great singer whose name is Vaggelis Perpiniadis. I used to work with him at the time...

he saw my anxiety as a young boy and said, "come to the studio tomorrow morning, Giorgo, to record your two songs." This is luck! (both laughing)

Parnas: So Perpiniadis was the one who took you for the first time to the Studio?

Dalaras: Yes, yes. My father had a character trait, he was very much beloved by his fellow musicians. Therefore whenever I went for work,

many of his friends received me warmly

Parnas: Lucas Daralas was his name, a well-known singer and a bouzouki player in Greece in the 50s and 60s. Lucas the father was an artist,

musician who lived the Rembetiko music as a way of life. He lived the night, loved drinking and the smoke of hasis and was a consummate womanizer.

His relationship with his son was charged.

Parnas: 20 years ago, you did not talk about your father the same way you talk now, only after his death.

Dalaras: My father died in 1977. Since then, over 30 years have passed. I always speak in the same way about my father.

Parnas: But for a long time you were very angry with him?

Dalaras: Nothing had changed inside me. I always say the same things and this is what I say now. My father never offered me anything but rather

gave me everything. There is a difference between offer and give. There is a difference between offering something to someone because you are

interested in doing so and giving something, passing it on biologically, through the genes

Parnas: Contrary to his father, Dalaras has kept clean image. He is an exemplary family man and an artist who is totally commited to his art, that none

of his father's weaknesses stuck to him. The Rembetiko songs are his breath, his greatest passion. He is at his best singing these songs.

Parnas: Would I be right if I say that your father was your first music teacher?

Dalaras: Yes, but from a distance.

Parnas: What does it mean from a distance?

Dalaras: I met my father when he left in 1952, I hardly remember him.

Since then I met him maybe 5 or 6 times in my life.

Parnas: During those dark days in Greece, from 67 - 74, every artist was presented with two options. The first option was to align oneself and

submit to the regime and survive. The second was to raise voice, to revolt and thereby run the risk of imprisonment or exile. Young Dalaras of

those days makes his first steps in his career, first and promising steps, and opts for his own way.

Dalaras: The songs that I had sung and chose to sing, first of all, the first song that I chose to sing for instance. I could not stay with those who

kept low profile. Therefore, my first song that I had sung got immediately censured.

Parnas: What was the contents of the song, do you remember some lines from the song?

Dalaras: When the stars will come out, when the bell of the people will signal the freedom of this place.

Parnas: Do you believe the socialist party can save Greece today from the deep economic crisis?

Dalaras: It is very difficult now and it is not known who will save Greece; we all have to save Greece. Greece is no longer a small and closed

nation but it is part of a larger society of Europe that is threatened by the very same elements who lead Greece to what it is today.

Parnas: Talking about the crisis here in Greece, how did the crisis affect the music industry?

Dalaras: It destroyer it. The economic crisis had totally destroyed the discography business.

Parnas: Deep crisis also in the music industry?

Dalaras: First of all there are no record companies left.

Parnas: In what way is it a crisis in the music industry?

Dalaras: All record companies have closed. People do not buy anymore discs. Internet has also part in it. This is on the one hand. And on the

other hand it concerns the worst type of songs that is being offered in the past 30 years. There will remain only musicians who can work directly with the public.

Parnas: Like you?

Dalaras: I dont know. I am already at the end. This concerns the young ones. The young must create a new musical world that will be real and will

not be based on show-off, but in depth (be based) on the music and getting connected with the public. I wish that some young artists will

create that connection with the public. The kind which I and other singers had in the past years but there must appear singers who have

connection with music. Many singers in the past years had no connection with music whatsoever. Thus, maybe this crisis will have its positive effect

[synnefiasmenei kyriaki... ]

Parnas: He is a consummate artist, a stage predator and a show addict. There on stage he knows he is at his best. When the microphone is in

front of him and the audience in front there all his skills get connected to the love of the public and he is taking off to heights with intense

expression and to new heights. He was the first Greek artist who dared to expropriate the bouzouki music from the core smokey and alcohol

vapoured taverns and clubs into the lime light of the theatres, amphitheaters and stadiums He is a restless music adventurer. The

years 2000 in his career are typified by new musical projects every year. In 2005, in the Irodeio of Athens at the slopes of the Acropolis, he gives

his Mediterranean (Mesogeios) concert and in this scope he choses to perform Yad Anuga in Hebrew, at his side Mira Awad from Israel.

["Yad Anuga"]

Parnas: You know Giorgo there are people in Israel who think that Dalaras is Anti-Israeli and I tried to explain to them that they are wrong.

I think that it will be better that they will hear it from you.

Dalaras: It has nothing to do with Israel. Israel is a nation that suffers

many years and in many cases unjustifiably. I place the human being above the nation, above Greek, above Israeli, above Chinese and even

above Obama. The human being is above all and that is my ideology.

["San ton metanasti"]

Parnas: He is considered documentary maker and the greatest reformer of the Rempetiko music who pays tribute to great musicians and

established music styles in the genre in a series of shows [san Tragoudi Magemeno - Anafora sto Rempetiko]. He is an

uncompromising perfectionist, innovator and a pioneer. His musical moves turned over the years to road-signs to the other Greek artists and

he established his status as one of the greatest singers in modern Greece.

Parnas: Tell me about your new project with the Russian Orchestra and what will the people in Israel see in your concert.

Dalaras: I have worked with this Orchestra for the first time 15 years ago

Parnas: What is so special in the combination between you and the Russian Orchestra

Dalaras: This orchestra is a bit different. In symphonic orchestra you use stringed instruments being played with archers such as violins.

All the instruments of this (Russian Orchestra) are mixed while playing them by manually. This is the difference. Furthermore, instead of violins

they play with balalaikas in all sizes.

Parnas: Instead of bouzouki or aside the bouzouki?

Dalaras: Not instead but in addition to bouzouki. The musicians who play with me are joining their fellow musicians in the Orchestra in order to

create a connection between the two worlds so as to integrate the Russian and the Greek music. As you know, I have done the same thing

with the Israel (Philharmonic) Orchestra. I am interested in the presence of these difference worlds.

["Tha pao eki, stin Arapia "]

Parnas: Let's talk about age. You are very up and you are not young you make new records, concerts, every year new projects. Tell me, you don't rest?

Dalaras: Thats the way I rest, this is what makes me relax.

Parnas: Are you afraid of getting old?

Dalaras: Certainly.

Parnas: Really? why?

Dalaras: Because old age brings loneliness and I learned to live with people

Parnas: Let me understand, are you a lonely man?

Dalaras: All people are alone; they come to the world alone and the leave the world alone

["tora pou tha fygeis"]

Parnas: Tell me Giorgo, are you afraid of death?

Dalaras: Not at all, never,

Parnas: No? really? how come?

Dalaras: Because death has nothing to do with me, I do not know it and therefore I cannot be afraid of something I do not know. It is only a fear

and this fear doesn't concern me and I think that the big problem of people is that they fear of death and in addition (they fear) of God but they

shouldn't be. God should be giving people hope to live and not the notion of fear.

Parnas: If I ask you about a tune which goes with you for many years a unique one, which one you would chose?

Dalaras: I would try to find a song that would tell the truth

Parnas: You know such a song?

Dalaras: yes, and to people truth is valuable because many things we learned, lead us to paths of lies. Truth is the only thing that remains

and (the only thing that) people need

[Dalaras picks up his guitar and starts to sing "Tin Porta Anoigo To Vradi"] ... this one I think is the best song that I could chose for you.

Parnas: Giorgo, I thank you from the bottom of my heart, thank you very much

["Mi mou thymoneis matia mou"]

[p.s. This interview took place in anticipation of the two upcoming concerts in Caesarea on September 7th and 8th.

Parnas has always broadcasted Dalaras concerts in Israel, live on the radio and in September he will do the same, just like in 2007.]

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